Limited number of units being made? Does this limit stretch goals?

OldManZero

Received the email from Team OXI today that said

Probably in a few days there will be less than 100 OXIes available because we have decided to limit the number of units so that the manufacturing process is more controlled.

I’m not certain why this would be? Chip shortage?

Of more concern (to me) is that I’m not sure how the other two stretch goals can be realized if the remaining OXI units will only bring the campaign total up to a max of around 300K Euros.

Are the other two stretch goals (HDMI Expander and velocity-sensitive pads) just going to the wayside in the name of reduced risk in the manufacturing process? Some clarity on this would be appreciated.

Cheers, all.

Carlos

Limiting units is indeed made to reduce risks in the manufacturing process.
The stretch goals are set depending on plausibility of them, that is increased costs, development, software and hardware reworks.

The stretch goals are reachable with the units we plan to offer.

SLiC

Carlos seems a bit strange, as you will have to sell almost all of the current units left to hit the 250k mark for the pipe….doesn’t leave much of a for the velocity pads….I would have thought the pipe level would say 230 as the ‘‘sold out’ level for the big goal is about 270?

SLiC

Only 88 single units left to sell as of today :- Love to know what the plan is for the Velocity Pads Goal? Putting that ‘out there’ with a figure may help push more units….😀

Carlos

SLiC Hey there! There’re 25 days left for the campaign to be over. Please be patient, we have attended crowdfunding 101 😃

SLiC

I think you misunderstand me- I mean there are ‘only ’ 86 (single) units left, so that’s around 43K Euro if you sell them all - that makes around the 250K goal…(for the pipe) so where does the stretch goal for the velocity pads come from? If if you sell all the ‘doubles’ as well it will be around 270K limit (so just another 20K for the velocity stretch goal or do you plan to add more units?)

Manuel

SLiC Hello Slic, the number of units available can be modified at any time. The fewer units, the more urgency it generates for new potential backers. These kind of strategies are suggested by Indiegogo staff.

SLiC

Manuel Great- I have posted on a few sites they are like hot cakes and people need to be quick but I had seen on another post it was said there wouldn’t be any more as the production run needed to be limited to limit risk. so I was hoping that meant we could get velocity at 270K :-) Anyway- lets hit 250K and then take it from there!

Manuel

SLiC The units are indeed limited but not by 500. Same as before, urgency effect! Let’s hit 250K first! 😃

ElkWrath

I’ll be honest in the fact that I canceled my pledge over the pressure sensitivity stretch goal issue.

I think you have a great device, and I’m sure it’ll be a banger in the synth world.

After my experience with crowdfunding over the years, I appreciate a focused end goal.

What prevents me from investing is the specification changes for the gate outputs, and the offering of a stretch goal that does not seem to be achievable based on your revised unit goal.

I’m sure you’ll be successful, and when you are I’ll consider spending the extra cash on your finalized version that I can have in hand a few days from my order.

This issue has been posted a few times and not once have you said anything about honoring the stretch goal you set on the campaign. Even the 500k stretch goal price was removed, and in response all that has been said is “we’ll see”

I understand that from a revision standpoint, but I’ve been robbed a few times on campaigns, this was a big red flag.

I hope you guys are successful, and I’ll follow your progress.

Manuel

ElkWrath Hi, I understand your concern. A few clarifications:

If we reached the last goal and we finally included a decent implementation of a pressure sensitive keyboard with 128 pads, the OXI One at 530€ would literaly be a bargain.
We didn’t make the number of the goals visible because the previsions and the reality can be totally different.
OXI One is well worth at this price point as it is now, without any of the aditional goals.
The number of available units has been already modified.

Regarding hardware specifications, they will depend on the final design. For example adding the OXI Pipe will repercute on some final design choices about control voltage signals.

In general the comprimise is to always improve the hardware to deliver to current and future customers the best possible product.

Oldgearguy

I’ve purchased (and sold) a number of music devices with pressure sensitive pads. They are not easy to do well. The most expressive were the Linnstrument pads and those units sell for a lot more than the OXI.

Personally, I’d rather the team stayed focused on doing the core development and getting everything implemented correctly and solidly with no issues with clocking/syncing/etc rather than the pressure sensitive pads implementation.

If this campaign (and release) is successful, that sets the stage for more/different/improved products in the future. Adding pressure sensitive pads would surely push delivery times well into 2022.

Create a core product with a consistent vision, do it well, support it, and you will have a long life as a company to make more beautiful unique things.

ElkWrath

Manuel

After waiting approximately 1 full year since this original post….

Don’t worry my man!

I came back around. And placed an order now that I’m in a better financial situation.

The new features look amazing!

Can’t wait to bring this into my set up!

SoundRider

Just to have it said … my opinion about stretch goals is that I support a crowdfunded project for its basic offer in the first place … and if there are stretch goals … okay. This said, I appreciate to receive the case too, which is a great and useful add on in its own right.

Carlos

ElkWrath A (wo)man of word. Glad you are back, hope you enjoy it 😃